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Hot take: "Debate" as a form of conflict has filled the cultural niche that Dueling once did. It's the same form of fake ritualised combat, and insecure white men like doing it because it makes them feel they're more capable at something than they actually are. Just as no one who was good at dueling would have actually been any good at fighting in a war, no one who's good at debate is actually any good at changing people's minds.

@Dayglochainsaw this is a good take but I think you can be good at both debate and changing people's minds. They're just two different skills.

@Dayglochainsaw The only thing that makes this take hot would be the lack of sources and evidence... other than that, it sounds rather sound to my mind. At least in the narrow context you gave at the end.

HOT take 

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